Tuesday, 22 May 2012
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Court Declares a Vaccine Caused Autism in 1 Case
An Italian judge has sided with the parents in a case where the MMR vaccine stood trial for causing autism and 100 percent disability in a child. Apparently the child became sick the same day as taking the vaccine and never recovered.The U.S. news media has failed to pick up on this news, while the Italian newspaper scolded the judge for encouraging measles epidemics.
Where is investigative journalism? If investigative journalism were functioning in this age of the waning newspaper, a reporter could make it very clear that the question of vaccines causing autism has not been proven one way or the other, but a British researcher, Andrew Wakefield, has been vilified beyond all reason. Instead, the media is parroting what the vaccine makers want to hear. Huge pharmaceutical companies are shielded by liability laws on vaccines and are generating more and more of them, while convincing those on review boards that the benefits outweigh the risks.
Studies do seem to show that the measles vaccine in the MMR does not cause autism, and that the mercury that used to be prevalent in vaccines does not cause autism. These results are in dispute by knowledgeable scientists. And there are no other studies that show that vaccines are safe. So what about the aluminum in the vaccines? A study found a correlation there. And requiring too many, too soon? If you let your kids be vaccinated on schedule, you’re participating in a vast experiment. And when bad things happen, you may get tarred and feathered.
Look at who’s making the money!
Source: http://www.quotidianosanita.it/regioni-e-asl/articolo.php?articolo_id=8363&goback=.gfl_4301203
Google translation ( a little rough, but you can get the idea):
Autism. Court of Rimini: “Blame the vaccine.” Ministry ordered to pay compensation
The court granted the appeal by parents of a child who, according to the prosecution, would become autistic after vaccination against measles, mumps and rubella. Asked for compensation to the Ministry of Health. Sites, FIMMG, FIMP and Sip: “Judgment based on false science.”
The vaccine in question is the one against measles, mumps and rubella. According to the parents, in fact, the symptoms of autism in their child would have arisen just after inoculation. Even the same day, as stated in the judgment. Returning dall’Auls of Riccione, March 26, 2004, the child would begin to show worrisome symptoms (diarrhea and nervousness), while between 2004 and 2005 would have appeared signs of severe psychological and physical discomfort to the recognition, August 31, 2007, total and permanent disability to 100%. Whether this was due to vaccinations you practice the specialist Niglio already stated in June 2008 and to confirm it arrived a year later, the specialist Montanari.
That this condition was due “with reasonable scientific probability” to the administration of the vaccine MPR occurred at the ASL in Riccione was then the medical-legal evaluation of the auxiliary, that judges must be upheld. Established, therefore, that the child has been harmed by the irreversible complications due to vaccination, the court ordered the Ministry of Health to pay the compensation.
The judge, according to these experts, should have “apparently” based on “what is published, now 14 years ago, the Lancet, and subsequently withdrawn by the obvious lack of foundation of what was initially proposed by a group of British researchers.”
The known medical journal Lancet has officially withdrawn because the study on possible links between autism and MMR trivalent vaccine. The article, published in 1998 and written by British doctor Andrew Wakefield, was due to a long scientific dispute lasted almost 12 years. Wakefield claimed that the vaccine was due to intestinal infections, in turn linked to Kanner’s syndrome. His claims were discredited by the scientific world, and were at the base of one of the most important disputes in the history of medicine: “Unfortunately – says the Scientific Board – the false thesis proposals led to a strong decrease in the number of vaccinations in the United States, in Great Britain and other parts of Europe, with the result, in many cases disastrous, a sudden increase of cases of measles and its complications, including several cases of encephalitis and death. “
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Once case. Statistically, is that something to worry about you think? I don't know anything much about it.
I still believe that the MMR vaccine causes Autism.. but not because of the aluminum. The MMR vaccines (as well as 13 others) are made with aborted fetal tissue, foreign human DNA. It only makes sense that there is some reaction when foreign DNA is injected into a baby. Some bodies can get rid of it, others react. What shocks me is that there is no research going into this! (at least none that i could find).. Everything is about the mercury, formaldehyde and aluminum.. but nothing i can find is about the aborted fetal tissue... really makes on think...
its in the pox vaccine as well.
My nephew was a perfectly healthy, normal 4 year old when he was got his yearly vaccinations. That night he got extremely sick and within the week (after recovering from the flu he got) he was diagnosed as a full blown, high-functioning autistic- meaning his IQ was generally believed to be unaffected, while his ability to communicate AT ALL had gone out the window.
The statistics may not back this or any other claim, but without a doubt in my heart I know the two are correlated. That's not to say I am against all vaccinations in children, but there definitely needs to be more research done on the things we inject into our bodies and how different people react. Props to that Italian judge for really looking into the case and standing up for those parents! It's hard to explain the pain in seeing a child change overnight and not being able to help. It's hard for me to say who should be held responsible, but with all the money that pharmaceutical companies make they should definitely be obligated to deposit some fraction of their earnings to further RESEARCH of the chemicals and viruses they expose us to (...by our will, of course. Humanity as a whole needs more education on the subject; instead of simply being told when to come in for a shot, people should know that there are options and not every vaccination/medication is necessary)
@LadyGwenivere@xanga - Vaccinations do not contain aborted fetal tissue. Certain vaccines contain weakened samples of the virus that they're immunizing against, and these are the vaccines that must be produced by growing the virus in existing human cell cultures, only two examples of which (out of hundreds) were from aborted fetuses. Autism is the result of congenital brain defects; defects with which autistic children are born, and which cannot be caused by vaccines.
There are many accounts of children manifesting signs of autism after receiving vaccinations, but this is not evidence that vaccines *cause* autism, but only that they might exacerbate existing signs of autism as a result of immune response against the weakened form of the virus, or from the trauma of being injected, to which infants or toddlers often have no comparable trauma.
Recently, in my area, there have been several hundred cases of Whooping Cough in Johnson County, MO, because so many children hadn't been vaccinated against the disease. Whooping cough is a dangerous and potentially deadly disease among children, and parents risk their children contracting diseases far, far more harmful than a case of autism, that, by the very nature of the disorder, is already present.
When it comes to such things, you can't always believe what you read, and that goes for my comments as well. Do your research, make sure the sources are reputable, and weigh the risks carefully before deciding against vaccination.
@TrekkieECH@xanga - really??? because the list of ingredients my Dr gave me straight from the package the shot came in included it... guess he must have made it up then.
I work in the bioscience field and I find it very frustrating that despite the countless studies that overwhelmingly show that vaccinations do not cause autism, there will never be enough research to convince some people otherwise.
http://www.plosbiology.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pbio.1000114
@LadyGwenivere@xanga - Your doctor should lose his license to practice.
@LadyGwenivere@xanga - What were the exact words the ingredients said? Because I strongly doubt it said "aborted fetal tissue." It more likely said "recombinant DNA," or some variation of that. You probably then proceeded to google "how do you get recombinant DNA," to which some unreliable site said,"ZOMG AB0RT3D F3TU$E$". If I'm completely off, call me out. Whatever makes you happy, I really don't care. This isn't a knock at you, I'm just saying that that's how a lot of people who don't care to look for primary sources when doing their research come up with these results.
This is how conspiracy theories about a variety of medical topics start. If I could personally delete every website with falsified medical information, trust me, I would. I have worked with people who develop life-saving vaccines, and their knowledge and innovation far outweighs the surface-level understanding that the public holds about what goes into their bodies.
@Saridactyl@xanga - why? because he showed me the list of ingredients on drugs they wanted to inject into my child??? Because he was honest about where the cells came from?? Its my right and responsibility to know everything that is being put into my child.
@cody_ashby@xanga - "human fetal cells" which were used to grow the virus. I asked him where the cells came from, and was told that it is common practice to harvest the cells from aborted fetuses.
All the information is available from the NVIC, the CDC as well as Dr Joseph Mercola.Ive also spent about a grand on books about vaccines as well. 99% of what i learned is not from the internet. And from what I have learned I will never put another vaccine in my children or myself.
@LadyGwenivere@xanga - Aborted fetal tissues are not in vaccines. That's why. I hope your children enjoy
Polio.
@Saridactyl@xanga - im sorry im going to believe my dr and the documentation he has shown me to back it up (along with what i have researched on my own) before i believe some random person on a site like this.
@LadyGwenivere@xanga - The things you're reading are misguided and so is your doctor. It's incredibly unprofessional to spread lies like that. You should read REPUTABLE sources.
What you're saying, that they use "fetal tissue to grow viruses" is COMPLETELY different from the vaccine containing fetal tissue. The developed cell lines that grow the viruses are from the 1960's from fetal tissues, but not anymore. Read up. You're anti-vaccine pro-life propaganda is showing.
@Saridactyl@xanga - so we disagree. I see no reason to continue this conversation. Have a good one!
@LadyGwenivere@xanga - Viral vaccines have to be grown in living cells. So human fetal cells can sometimes be used to cultivate the weakened virus for vaccination. This doesn't mean that human fetal cells are literally inside the vaccine. The virus is extracted from the culture. Your doctor just didn't explain this very well.
Also, in reference to the original post.
Are you kidding me? Years and years of research and development go into the safety of vaccines and all drugs. It's not like there is some Spartan warehouse in the woods blindly churning out drugs and putting them on the market. The FDA has strict guidelines, stricter than many other countries even, on drug safety and efficacy. The pharmaceutical industry isn't putting out vaccines with obviously questionable safety. They're doing their best. And the industry isn't as lucrative as everyone thinks it is. All of that money is going somewhere. It's going towards making drugs and vaccines safe and effective for the public. Just because you can't hack up some article by some anonymous scientist on a blog about the safety of vaccines doesn't mean it's not out there. Read some scholarly articles. Skim a scientific abstract at the very least."And there are no other studies that show that vaccines are safe."
@theDevilWeeps@xanga - go to the NVIC and do some research.
And if thats the case why would it state CLEARLY on the ingredients list for the MMR vaccine "HUMAN FETAL DNA"??? And another FYI? the MMR shot is not the only one its in either.
No matter what safety precautions are put in place, and no matter how well something is tested, there will always be one or two cases out of hundreds of thousands that have a negative outcome. There's nothing that can be done about it, just like in the millions of births every year you have cases of genetic disorders that pop up. No one means for it to happen, it just does. We're not perfect, identical machines.
Too many people don't realize how young the field of autism and related syndromes is. Part of the problem is with (in my opinion, over-) diagnose of autism, aspergers, etc., combined with a parent population that believes that their children have to be completely special, results in parents wanting reasons and excuses for why their children aren't as "special" as they think they should be.
Correlation doesn't necessarily equal causation, and above that given the number of vaccinations against the rate of autism, etc. diagnoses, the evidence is simply not there to support the conclusion that vaccines cause autism-spectrum issues.
@LadyGwenivere@xanga - The NVIC is an anti-vaccination advocacy group. Their information is highly biased and unscientific.
@theDevilWeeps@xanga - thats your opinion, and its not my only source Ive used anyway,
Its clear we are going to disagree, so there is no reason to continue this conversation. Have a good day =)The only way to reasonably attempt to make this apparent correlation legitimately questionable as cause and effect is to carry out a large study of children who receive the vaccines and who don't from a random sampling, which would be extremely hard to implement given that most children are required. That said, I'm not sure what kind of such studies may have been administered before the vaccine began being used. What I know is the vaccine works very well to prevent these diseases, which is very important.
From the CDC, just more scientific articles about the topic:
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Concerns/Autism/Index.html
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Vaccines/MMR/MMR.html
As you can see, most drugs and vaccines are not perfect and do come with risk of adverse effects. Thankfully, autism isn't one of those risk.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2011/01/06/132703314/study-linking-childhood-vaccine-and-autism-was-fraudulent
Vaccines do NOT cause autism. There has been SO much research done to prove it to be true. I'm going into this field and I have read the papers that claim the link--their data is not significant and often shaky. Wakefield's claims have been countered against time and time again and there is strong evidence to support that he had financial stakes in them. Furthermore, the parents that he used in his study actually denied the data he claimed to have gotten from their children! It is frustrating that no matter how much hard science works, someone won't believe it.
To be fair, I understand the parents' fight for a cure and a desperate desire to believe anything. Believe me, I do. I watch my mother struggle to reconcile her need to live "one more day" than my (classically autistic) brother, and I, too, struggle to give meaning to my own future because of it. I completely understand that need to cling to a hope. But I think this vaccine story needs to be put to rest.
I highly recommend Paul Offit's book, Autism's False Prophets. It's very readable and translates down the hard science for those who aren't familiar with the jargon.
I am on the spectrum since long before the MMR as are others in my family in different generations, some even older than I and some in the generations after me. I cannot say that vaccination never causes autism, but I can say that it does run in families. I cannot say that vaccination never causes autism, but I can say there is as yet no proof that it ever does, the evidence for heredity appears stronger, but more research is required.
@LadyGwenivere@xanga - In all the research you've done, have you ever researched the effects of the diseases that these vaccines are meant to prevent, and the debilitating consequences a child could suffer if he or she contracted one of them?
The MMR vaccine inoculates against Measles, Mumps, and Rubella.
Measlesis a leading cause of preventable childhood fatality. Approximately 450 children die every day from it. A measles infection can lead to bronchitis, and panencephalitis (widespread inflammation of the brain), complications that can cause coma, brain damage, and even death.
Mumps is a virus that causes extremely painful swelling of infected tissues, and may have a wide array of permanent side effects depending upon the organs infected, including hearing loss, spontaneous abortion if a woman contracts it while pregnant, and possible sterility if contracted by a man.
Rubella, also known as the German measles, mostly affects children ages 5-9, but in some cases, if contracted by pregnant women can cause children to be stillborn, or to be born with mental or physical impairment or disability.
I'm not going to list the effects of every preventable disease; I'll leave it to you to do that yourself, but the following is a list of other diseases to which your children will be susceptible if not vaccinated: Diptheria, Pertussis, Tetanus, Hepatitis A, Hepatitis B, Haemophilius influenzae type b, Polio, Human Papillomavirus, Meningococcus, Pneumococcus, Rotavirus, and Varicella. Many of these are deadly, and some have permanently debilitating consequences. ALL OF THEM are vaccine-preventable.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing. I get my medical news from reliable sources, usually medical journals. But public opinions and reactions are very interesting and just as controversial.
I would much rather have an Autistic child than a dead child. My children will be completely vaccinated.