Saturday, 13 March 2010
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Does a curved pinky (clinodactyly) equal Autism?
Jaylen gets evaluated by a developmental pediatrician every year. The doctor who did it last year was extremely thorough. She spent over 2 hours talking with him, playing with him, testing him, and looking him over. One thing in particular stood out to me after I got the paperwork, something she didn't say in person. It said that he had:
Clinodactyly of the fifth digit.
Well of course I had to go check that out! And if you Google it there are some fascinating results. Go ahead, do it. I'll wait...
Interesting right? There is a ton of info out there on this, why hadn't I ever heard of it? Here is a Wikipedia article about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinodactyly.
Some scientists believe that the correlation between curvature of the fifth pinky and Autism is so strong that it can be a predictor of the spectrum disorder. Here is one site with some more about this: http://www.handresearch.com/news/never-underestimate-little-finger-pinky-pinkie.htm. I also found several studies relating Clinodactyly to Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and Down Syndrome also.
I remember that Jaylen was napping while I was doing this "research" and I couldn't wait for him to wake up. And sure enough, when he did I took a look and there is a slight bend in his pinkies. I have been checking the baby's pinkies too, but I think it may be too early to tell. There is a lot chub to look passed. But his left definitely looks curved. So we'll see if the theory holds true for him too.
Now, go ahead, get your kids and check those pinkies! I want to hear from my fellow Autie moms and moms of kids not on the spectrum, what are your findings? Let's do our own research and see what we think about the correlation. Does a curved pinky (clinodactyly) equal Autism?
********Please note, this is all in good fun (if you can call it that). I am not trying to diagnose or undiagnose any one's child or do a true scientific experiment. Just putting that out there since you all know my experiences from scary angry mommy social sites!*********
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My son does not have curved pinkies and he isn't on the spectrum. My husband is on the spectrum and his pinkies don't look curved to me.
My pinkie's are curved. Hmmm....
Interesting story... and there is much to add:
The source mentioned by Mommytotwoboys also presents another more thorough article about "the hand in autism": fingerprints, dermatoglyphics and autism
It's interesting to notice that in that study most significant results were also related to the litle finger.
PS. Beyond the little finger: the so-called low 'digit ratio' (2D:4D finger ratio
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PS. Beyond the little finger - the so-called low 'digit ratio' (2D:4D finger ratio
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PS. Beyond the little finger - the so-called low 'digit ratio' (2D:4D finger ratio smaller than 0.94) has also turned out in various studies to reveal a significant clue for autism, see: Finger length related to autism!.
My pinky (I have Asperger Syndrome) is curved at the bottom...one much more than the other. Does this count ?
Interesting indeed. Myself and my boys are on spectrum but pretty straight pinkies... however, my niece has this (her father has this) and I suspect she's on the spectrum although her father, mother, and now new step mom don't seem to hear me :) So, I'm going to pass this on to the step mom (one of my best friends) and see if they hear me now :)
This is very interesting...
-Asperger with curved pinkiesI have Asperger's, and my pinky curves out, not in. My middle finger has an intense curve to the outside though, and I have a low 2D:4d ratio (0.93).
Funny, my daughter asked me three days ago why her brother's fingers 'curve weird'. I don't see it when I ask him to show me his hands...
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Thank you all for your replies and comments on my curved pinky post! I never knew that comments were added to my Autisable blog! I am just now finding these!
I wrote an update on my blog that I hadn't even looked at my own pinkies and my left one is curved! And my middle fingers are so curved. And thanks for pointing out the 2D:4D thing. I had not seen that and on my left my 2D and 4D are about the same length and on my right my 2D is significantly shorter than my 4D. Crazy! I never even thought to look at my own hands. I wonder waht all this means for me?
@mommytotwoboys - since that blog, I looked at hubby's pinky's more carefully. One is curved, the other is slightly curved. I tried to check in his sleep. I would have to look at the relationship between curved pinkies and autism a little more carefully. I think it probably just means you have curved pinkies and there was a chance that your son would have them whether he was on the spectrum or not.
@Erika_Steele@xanga - yeah, I pretty much agree. All in good fun!
Very interesting! Both of my son's pinkies are bent significantly (one worse than the other) and he has PDD. He was born with the bent pinkies and as he grows (he is 9 now), it is getting worse. We took it to a hand specialist a few years back and they measured the degree of the bends. We were told he might need surgery if it continues to worsen, starts to cause pain or poses functional limitations. I think his pinkies are cute and I like the difference. Of course, if he needs surgery ultimately, I will probably feel different. He is starting to become self-conscious of them, though.
My son has very curved pinkies, and is not on the spectrum as far as we know....he is however not your typical kid he has always been a little different.
I know it's been a while since the post, just thought I'd add - I have pretty severely crooked pinkies, as does my brother and one of my sisters (so for those of you counting at home, 3/4 of us). Neither my mom or dad does - and to my knowledge, no one in my family is on the spectrum. Not trying to "disprove" anything - just thought I'd throw more data in for everyone.
I've just recently learned, depending on how objectively/subjectively I judge myself, that I have between 10 and 12 indicators of fetal alcohol effects. My two curved pinkies are on the firm positives list. What a journey! Thanks for the blog posts. I'm completing my second degree in a very demanding field with a 4.0 GPA on a 4 point scale, by the way. I think I can. I think I can. I think I can. I am. I did. I will.
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my mother and her seven siblings all inherited the crooked pinky from my grandfather. my brother and sister do not have it, but I do.
none of us have any spectrum diagnoses. to put that another way, counting myself I know 10 individuals with clinodactyly without any evidence of an autism spectrum disorder. i have worked closely with spectrumites, specifically those with asperger's syndrome, for several years and never before heard of this supposed "link".
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Fascinating.
I have crooked pinkies and so does my daughter - we also have toes that are further apart and my daughter had a high palett which cost me a fortune to fix - palette expander, braces. Happy to report she is a healthy, normal - whatever that is - 11 year old as of today! Not on the Spectrum and neither am I, Sometimes a crooked pinky is just that - a crooked pinky.
Great site. A lot of useful information here. I’m sending it to some friends!
I have crooked pinkies on both hands. I am not autistic. I have seen that it means that you might excel at math, but not so much in other areas, which is true for me.
I'm 28 and have had clinodactyly since birth. It runs in the pateral side of my family and usually skips a generation. I excell in math and most sciences as well as literature and writing. I am, however, a terrible speller and grammer is my downfall. I am analytical and think logically and while I can relate to others emotions I tend to dismiss the credibility of my own. I have never been told by a doctor that I have dyslexia but spell check seems to diagnose me regularly. I do have ADHD or ADD, I wish I had paid better attention when the doctor told me which.
Clinodactyly is also sometimes paired with other joint defects (or as I like to say differences). One is a gap between the large toe and the one next to it. (go ahead and check your feet or your loved ones feet......) I am lucky enough to also have this=). I am double jointed (from my mother's side) which makes this gap sometimes painful because my toes are flexible to a default and that tends to wear on my nerves. I believe most, if not all people with down syndrome also have both clinodactyly and this gap.
The reason you may not have autism or down syndrome but still display these minor physical defects (differences=)) is because they are characteristics of chromsomal mutations (love that word don't you). From my very limited research and education it appears that down syndrome and clinodactyly both derived from complications with the 21st chromosome. I THINK autism research is showing links to the 16th chromosome, but my MD diploma has someone elses name on it.
I first started looking into the origin of my crooked pinkies when I stayed with a family who had adopted two children with down syndrome after having one of their own biologically. Sitting at the table one evening I noticed the small hand slapping it's highchair looked oddly familar, and as I slowly crept my eyes around the table at the others my shock was multiplied. Not only had I never met anyone with cooked pinkies before, but here I was faced with three at the same time, and they all had down syndrome. I asked their mother about it and showed her my own, and she chimed, "Well you are the smartest person with down syndrome I've ever met." After noticing their toes I hit the computer, but again, even my www degree is still quite limited.
I stumbled on this site while looking into the possibility of correcting my pinkies. (Anyone with information on that?) As much as I am accustomed to the minor life adjustments they call for, I am forever irritated at the discomfort of their constant rubbing on my ring finger. Whether I'm holding something or picking something up after 28 years of feeling awkward I wanted to see if I could just fix them already.
I will say that if they are not fixable I will always have one reminder that they are special and beautiful. The oldest and biological child with down syndrome from the family I stayed with was crying one evening after a more difficult day at school. When I sat down with 16 year old April and ask her to tell me about it, she cried that she just wanted to be like everybody else and that she didn't want down syndrome and she didn't want her stupid crooked pinkies. I smiled, looked at her tear filled face, extended my hands and told her, "We are all unique, and each one of us is special, but as you can see we are not all that different from one another." -KG-