Saturday, 02 January 2010
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Mainstream Medicine Continues to Debunk Autism-Vaccine Link
Medical news sources continue to debunk any link between autism and vaccines, saying there is good research that has closed the issue.
For example, a recent issue of the Journal for Specialists in Pediatric Nursing, reported in ScienceDaily.com, reviews existing research on vaccine safety in regard to autism. It looks only at the two most-published causation theories, mercury and MMR. It concludes that “there is not convincing scientific evidence supporting a relationship between vaccines and autism.” Therefore, the headline trumpets that there is “no scientific link” between autism and vaccines.
The logic of this conclusion is obviously faulty.
1. There are many other variables about the way vaccines are made and the schedules that are used. Only two variables have been eliminated: thimerosal mercury and measles virus found in the MMR.
2. Since research to date hasn’t identified a link, there isn’t any link. Research to date is very narrow in scope. No one has dared to do a simple epidemiological study that compares autism rates in kids who have been vaccinated with autism rates in kids who haven’t been.
Meanwhile, the anecdotal evidence mounts.
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The mainstream media is Big Pharma's favorite tool, or if you will, their preferred medium for spreading their dirty work.
Hooray Big Pharma, you gotta pad your pocket books and live lives of excess somehow, while the rest of us are barely scraping by. It's all about the money, honey!
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Nice trick, using a fundamentally true headline to try and push this trash. You know why mainstream medicine keeps debunking any supposed link between vaccines and autism? You can't de-bunk something that isn't bunk.
You say "mainstream medicine" when you mean "scientific medicine." You say "anecdotal evidence" like it's not an oxymoron. Would you like to explain the "obvious fault" in the logic of saying that science has found no link between vaccines and autism when science has exhaustively studied the issue searching for such a link and found none?
Do you have another causation theory? Do you have facts to support your claims? You do not.
There is no link between vaccines and autism. Prove I'm wrong.
Or shut up.
Because we're starting to figure out what causes autism, and claiming a link that just isn't there does irreparable harm not only to that process, but to the vital work of public vaccination.
@mathematicalbagpiper@xanga - What costs more money, an inexpensive vaccine that prevents a person from getting a lethal disease, or trying desperately to save them once they catch it? That's the side Big Pharma's bread is buttered on. It's funny that you have them pushing miraculously effective, inexpensive preventatives for such diseases in order to pad their pocket-books when it actually costs them untold millions in lost revenues. You sure you don't want to re-evaluate your position?
@BobRichter@xanga - Nope. It's just a cover-up. Big Pharma wants to look all altruistic when in reality, they don't give a damn. It's all about the money honey.
This is why I refuse any and all routine and emergency medical services (no matter what the situation). I stopped going to doctors, and I will never see another doctor again as long as I live. Western medicine is not necessary when you take care yourself the way I do.
@BobRichter@xanga - Further, it's very clear you don't know me very well at all. I'm 100% anti-doctor, anti-drug, anti-surgery, anti-everything medicine. I don't take medicine for anything, be it pain or otherwise. I'll never consent to any surgical procedure. I'll never consent to emergency treatment, even if it's supposedly required to save my life.
My advance directive states very clearly that I refuse ANY AND ALL routine and emergency medical services. My moral objection to the poor ethics of the medical industry drives me to do this. I'm a naturalist, use natural medicine/healing, eat all-natural, among other things. I'm healthier than everyone I know who uses modern medicine.
@mathematicalbagpiper@xanga - Yes, science-be-damned, your perfect lifestyle will save you when the microbes come calling. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
@BobRichter@xanga - Actually, sure. My immune system is perfectly healthy. I know how not to get sick. I don't ever get sick. When I used "science based medicine" as you call it, I was sick all the time.
Explain that one to me. I've come to the conclusion the aim of the medical industry is to make you sicker, not better. That's why I don't use modern medicine, at all.
@mathematicalbagpiper@xanga - Your immune system won't save you from a bug it doesn't know how to fight. It can even try to kill you. There is no "how not to get sick." You are ignorant and foolish, and trying to pass your folly off as wisdom. If you're lucky, you won't die of it.
A sample size of one is useless. Sure, you're always healthy now, and you were always sick before. Suppose you die tomorrow, then I won't be able to ask you how your alternative lifestyle is working out. I lost the use of my hands and feet in 2006 and modern medicine saved not only those but my life.
Suppose, like my brother, you're in a car accident and your spine explodes. No ethical chiropractor wouldn't send you to a spinal surgeon, if you were lucky enough to live that long. That's modern/mainstream/western/scientific medicine, and it's the only thing that could save you from paralysis or death, as it did my brother.
I can go on, and with a little research, I can find people like you who have died for or killed by rejecting reality.
Science works. It cures people and saves lives. Moreover, the evidence is on its side. All you have is anecdotes and fantasies. Good luck with your invisible pink unicorns. I'll live in the world that's actually here, thank you very much.
For myself, I am done with this, and with you. At least for the moment.
Actually, their conclusion is not faulty because the burden of proof rests on finding a link, not the other way around. :rolleyes: I'm guessing you haven't taken a science class any time recently.
Science ~ Shmience My old science textbook back in the 60's said that if you took an airplane trip to the moon it would take you about 20 hours to get there.
@P1AutismMom - You sure it wasn't 20 days? Because that's about how long it'd take at airplane speeds, and science from the 60s was pretty clear on where the moon was. It did, after all, manage to put men on it and then safely return them to earth. You can't do that without knowing where the silly thing is.
@BobRichter@xanga - I think it may have been that our textbooks were ancient. Add that to my age and ... LOL
I do wonder with all these 'vaccination is evil and causes autism' posts that you make whether you actually genuinely believe all the anectodal evidence and disbelieve each and every scientific research paper made over the years or
its to drive people to your site where you sell your book http://www.nurturingyouraspergerschild.com/affiliate.htm and try to get affiliates to sell it for a very generous 50% commission http://www.clickbank.com/info/jmap.htm?vendor=phyllisw.
I am not saying that your book isn't worthwhile, but that your controversial statements on Autisable directed at an always-seeking and sometimes very vulnerable audience are just a part of your marketing effort. In any case you are either a genuinely deluded conspiracy-theorist or a very cynical and manipulative spin doctor and either way, your book lacks all credibility to me.
@BobRichter@xanga - In that case, where medicine is required to intervene, I'd rather die. Why? What will be the effects of living? Probably a diminished quality of life (paralysis, loss of use of hands or feet, amputation, etc.). Which is worse? Dying, or living with compromised function?
I'd rather die.
@mathematicalbagpiper@xanga - As I said, I regained the use of my hands and feet, and my brother's spine was repaired. Our quality of life is undiminished. Without modern medicine, it would be nonexistent.
So your argument fails.
//No one has dared to do a simple epidemiological study that compares
autism rates in kids who have been vaccinated with autism rates in kids
who haven’t been.//
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10376617
//Meanwhile, the anecdotal evidence mounts. //
Evidence of what? That the anti-vaxxers love correlation-causation fallacies? You don't need anecdotal evidence for that.