Saturday, 07 November 2009

  • One child in 91 diagnosed with autism; two child schizophrenics

    The news recently has had two disturbing items in it relating to the health of our children.

    One was the results of a phone survey of families of 78,000 children. The surveyors asked how many children aged 3-17 in the household had ever been diagnosed with autism.  The answer: 1 in 91.  This is a marked increase from the previously accepted level of 1 in 150, which was a huge increase from the level of one in thousands, 50 years ago when my autistic brother was born.  Something is very wrong and getting worse, and it started in the early 1990s.

    The second disturbing item was a clip of an Oprah Winfrey show describing the life of a 7-year-old schizophrenic. Lo and behold, she has a little friend who is also a very young schizophrenic. There are two of them.  Generally, schizophrenia comes on in late teens or early adulthood. Childhood schizophrenics are one in 10,000 or one in 40,000, depending on which Web page you are quoting. So is this becoming more common? 

    Yes, there is a link between autism and schizophrenia. Autistics are about twice as likely to become schizophrenic as normal people are. No one knows why, of course.

    Amy Yasko, a pioneer in applying genetics research to autism treatment, has called the children of the autism epidemic “the canaries in the coal mine.” She contends that we are living in a soup of toxins, and that the children are most susceptible and affected first.

    I certainly hope that someone does major research soon examining the possible environmental triggers of autism, including exposure to so many vaccines.  (The research that has been going on is underfunded and focusing on genetics rather than environment.)

    We need to know what is causing this. It is a disaster.


Comments (13)

  • mathematicalbagpiper@xanga

    You gotta love this overdiagnosis epidemic.

  • anonymous

    Autism is genetic.  Unfortunately, the ones who develop it happened to have the right combination of viruses in the body - thanks to vaccines.  Read "Fear of the Invisible" by Janine Roberts.  Autism is the result of vaccine contaminants.

  • SavonDuJour@xanga

    The methodology for this survey is too flawed for anyone to do anything more than laugh at.  The other day I had a call from a bank about customer satisfaction. My son took the call and told innumberable lies, we don't even bank there! 


    I would like to know if the percentages of autism in developed countries are similar.  That would be interesting. The figures for ADHD (which my son was mis-diagnosed with years ago) back then were forty (yes, 40) times higher in the US than Canada and the UK.


  • SaffireDreamer@xanga

    @Dawn - Actually there is no specific known cause to autism there are a lot of things that the scientists believe to be causing it but nothing has really been proved. It could be that there is a gene that could cause it given the right environmental factors, though some people believe that it is the next evolutionary change to humanity, that by specializing in certain key interest areas we are becoming less like a "jack-of-all-trades" and more like the child with autism. Also the research that has been done into vaccinations causing autism has been done on one of about 100 that children get early in life and it has not been researched on whether or not it's that vaccine or that vaccines interaction with other vaccinations.

  • Justanemptysoul

    Well, I haven't done any research on autism, but i have listened to some television shows on autism and have noticed some trends within our society. I honestly do not think it has anything to do with environmental factors.  a lot of the problem with people saying that things are "getting worse" with tme is usually an overdramatization.  1) it probably isn't that more people are developing autism, it's probably that with the advancement of medicinse, we are able to recognize cases easier which means more people aren't developing autism, but that people have the symptoms of autism and are able to be diagnosed correctly. (it's the same as crime rates, more often than not, it's because more people are reporting crime, not that it's getting worse). and 2). tons of people get vaccines and few people develop autism. there is not correlation between autism and vaccines. the evidence that "backs up" the vaccine/autism relations is so invalid and are reported by people who already believe this to be the case that they look for the correlation.


    honestly, i feel autism to be a genetic factor. there is a show on discovery health where a family has 7 children who ALL have autism. so obviously something is genetic if all the children they had have autism. now, i'm not a geneticist and i'm not an expert on this at all....but going by what i've observed and what i do already know about vaccines and statistics, autism is not directly or indirectly related to vaccines (no mercury does not cause autism and it is not in any vaccines that are given out now) and statistics change because of the increase or decrease in reports (not cases).

  • melldavis@xanga

    wow i had no idea it went up! i have an autistic little brother too.he is my pride and joy.i'm seroius i couldn't live without him.but you said something about schizophrenia and autisum(how do you spell that i had to copy and paste)if my mother has schizophrenia then could that increase his chance for autisum???

  • lonelywonderingdarksoul@xanga

    I have always had this theory, that the more we sterilize everything and kill all these germs and avoid the things we are allergic to, or could make us sick, that it's not helping but instead hurting us. Because we are no longer exposed to all these things that can harm us, we no longer build up immunities to these things, and when we loose that, we become weaker and weaker because what one generation was used to the next have never experienced it and when exposed, are more susceptible to illness.

     But when we get into genetics, as generation after generation are getting less immune the next batch will be even weaker. So that when they are born they have things like Autism and schizophrenic, or develop more allergies and can be effected to things like cancer.

    Now, I'm not saying go jump into a pool full of mold, but try not to be so concerned that you might get sick or hurt and just have fun. You don't need to be so worried about your kids safety that you bleach all there toys. Still be clean but don't be such a germaphobe that you end up ruining your children's live and maybe even your grandchildren. Maybe if we don't reach for the Clorox as much and just use hot water and some soap instead. Maybe these number over time will fall to less of a critical thing.

  • CuriousiTea@xanga

    I think a lot of kids are also being overdiagnosed. This is like the ADHD/ADD- some kids are just hyper. Some people are just hyper. Overdiagnosis is way too common.
    As for the cause of autism, maybe people should stop poo-pooing the idea of organic foods and start listening to the people who they normally make fun of for being so obsessed with chemicals in their food, or being too "granola". They might learn something.

  • JoeyCagle@xanga

    @lonelywonderingdarksoul@xanga - Actually I like the idea of jumping in a pool of mold! just kidding.

  • Stuck_ina_Box@xanga

    Maybe it's just because before people didn't recognize and just thought their child was different. My friend's cousins are autistic. When they were diagnosed, my friend's grandma realized that her children acted the same way but she always thought her kids were just a little different than the other kids.

  • x0SeReNe_cHaOs0x@xanga

    i found the videos on the child schizophrenics interesting.  i like that Jani made a friend in Becca.

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  • methodElevated@xanga

    My psychiatrists wouldn't diagnose me with schizophrenia when I was an adolescent.  They generally try not to if they can avoid it.   Instead, I was diagnosed with Major Depressive Disorder, recurring, severe with psychotic features.  And by psychotic features, it mean I had 7 voices constantly talking to me (some fairly harmless, some almost demonic), I saw people who weren't there, and I believed I was a martyred queen from another planet, brought to Earth in my infancy to be hidden from the people who destroyed my world in a civil war.

    It wasn't until I was 21 that I was "upgraded" to schizoaffective disorder (schizophrenia + major depressive disorder).

    I worry that too many children are getting diagnosed prematurely these days.  I mean, sure, I had imaginary friends when I was a kid, too, and they were actually there and talked to me (aka visual and auditory hallucinations).  I still don't think I would've been diagnosed with schizophrenia had my parents or doctors known the extent of it.



    EDIT:

    Those videos on Oprah.com are hauntingly similar to my own childhood.... 

    I had my own language (I thought my name was Touno ia'k'nen Rehtahla, and I had glyphs to spell it in the language that one of my "Guardians" taught me), saw shadow people, thought I went in a purple bus to visit my imaginary friends, Sarah and Jimmy (both girls), in a dance class that was adjoined to a mechanic's shop, etc.  I remember even making a dinosaur diorama for dance class once.

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