The vaccine does not need to be taken every 5 years after the first is given.  You get the first one then 5 years later you get a booster.  That's it! Two shots.  What part of the health care bill says they are going to "force" vaccines?

It's not a part of the new Health Care plan, but is actually individual state legislation. Basically, it gives the government and law enforcement the power to forcefully quarantine, treat, and vaccinate. Some of it states that they can't do it unless there is a 40% spread of a disease, others don't state it at all.
Public schools will actually deny a child entry if they don't have their shots. And the fact remains, just because you get the chicken pox vaccine, doesn't mean you won't get it. I received it and I believe the booster and still managed to get it and scabies at the same time. Vaccine does not equal protection. It actually weakens the immune system and keeps it from doing the job it's meant to do.
And all of this questioning over vaccines comes directly from the H1N1 flu virus scare. A virus that is more mild and kills considerably less than the seasonal flu. A virus that, like many other viruses is known to kill those who are more susceptible. And yet, we're being encouraged to go out and get this vaccine? Sure, maybe it's more contagious, but why not let people build up a natural immunity? Wouldn't that last longer than a yearly shot?
Either way, I urge caution toward any and all vaccine. There are some that simply aren't needed. Do your research, make sure you understand the side-effects.

@Liquid_Pain_523@xanga - well actually many critics have questioned the link between various immunizations and autism. The fact is there is no real way to know until we have at least 30-50 years to test the people taking the vaccines consistantly in before we can tell. That's why it's such a sensitive subject. 

Plenty is known about vaccinations and autism, especially since a few of them are 40/50 years old. 

Its just that all the evidence for vaccinations being linked to autism has been utterly discredited.

You cannot educate someone out of a belief.  People read newspapers and magazine articles written by journalists but do not read the original research writtten by doctors and scientists, but even when they do, it won't sway their original beliefs because they need to have something to blame for the awful disorder that has no explanation and any explanation to cling on to, seems better than none.  

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=370

Few people are aware that the entire research, the results of which have never been able to be replicated, was based on only eight children by Dr. Wakefield who was paid $55,000 (he eventually got a lot more) to find a link between the mmr vaccine and autism and who was also involved in an alternative vaccine development (as a business) himself.
http://briandeer.com/mmr-lancet.htm

@nubian_qween@xanga - Keep in mind, there is NO religion that puts stipulations on the type of medical care that one has.  If anything, one should just say that they have personal reasons for not protecting their children against illnesses, not religious reasons.  No religions have anything against medicine.  It's cults that do so.

One doesn't receive a chicken pox shot every 5 years.  It's the initial shot, then the booster, then it's done with.

I'm not sure if people realize that the chicken pox isn't necessarily an innocent childhood illness.  I know of a woman who lost a child due to complications from the illness.  She then began to have her other child vaccinated so as not to lose that child as well.

That being said... a medical professional should never ever administer an injection without first speaking to the parent.  I've always been told what immunizations would be given before they're being given.
It may be time to switch to a new doctor, one who communicates with the parents before going ahead with procedures.

I'd suggest finding a new doctor, one that's not in such a damn hurry.  My son's pediatrician is awesome.  He tells us about the shots and lets us read the pamphlets before he even goes near my son with a needle.

oh..you did go there. lol... well. my opnion is no. im not gettin my kid vaccined. you dont know whats in thiese shots, or what it will do to your kids years down the road..liek the gardisil( hpv) shot for example. THREE of my friends who had this shot got hpv anyways! so for shoving chemicals and metals in your body you get the damn disease anyways? wow. great., my dad told me in august of 40 deaths alone from gardisil...

doctors do that so you DONT ask questions. and in these days they cant afford to lose more money to the few people who get smart and ask about the shit in these shots.. you should look up mercury/thermisol( not sure is spellings right).. youd be surprised. and wow. if your kids dont have the shots, they cant go to school. boo hoo. school is bs anyways. im 20 yrs old and dont know shit about living in the real world with bills and debt. but oh wait... i know when columbus sailed, and madam curies shit. and.,.oh wait.. i already forgot all that shit.  anyways. check these links out...

HPV

http://vaccineawakening.blogspot.com/2009/02/gardasil-death-brain-damage-national.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/026722_Gardasil_HPV_cervical_cancer.html

THERMISOL

http://www.wanttoknow.info/060215vaccinesmercurydangers

and actually. think about it... when did autism, add, adhd, and all these diseases/conditions come into order? oh yeah thats right... after all this new  trying to play god doctor shit... most people dont take the time to look into all this stuff. did you know about fluorescent lights and food dyes? they are banned in europe. wonder why? oh. because they care about their people. usa?? cares about money. any mom should really look into all this stuff. theres alot of lies out there.. and... shampoos, lotions, soaps, hair spray? look at the ingrediants.. can you pronounce them? nope. theyre chemicals.. chemicals that are absorbed by your skin.... bad. very bad. just a quick search on google can change you and your kids lives for the better. i hope this helps at leats one person.

@abilene_piper_lg@xanga - That's not true.  The whole reasons Pharma and physicians exist in the first place is to maximize patient wellness.  Money may sustain them, as it should, but it's not the reason they exist.  FDA doesn't even come into the picture...if anything it would be the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).  I'd can't say that greed doesn't play a role, but that's what corporate mentalities are...fortunately, we know it, and they know it, and we've established ways of regulating their activities to keep their priorities focused. 

If anyone is ever forced to have a vaccine, it's for public safety.  What people don't realize is that vaccines are not just for yourself.  It's for the safety of those around you...especially for highly contagious diseases, not getting vaccinated means that if you catch the disease, you could pass it on to 20 other people, who can each give it to another 20 people.  An outbreak usually starts from a SINGLE source...and if that source had been vaccinated, the whole outbreak could have been prevented.  Some vaccines are mandatory for kids attending school, because they could potentially spread a virus or bacteria to the entire student body, and even if the death rate was as small as 1%, in a student body of 300-500 (which is small, really), that means 3-5 deaths...that could have EASILY BEEN PREVENTED.

By the way, chicken pox can be deadly, and though the chances of dying from it are low, it exists.  It's much safer for kids to get vaccinated with the attenuated chicken pox virus (Herpes Zoster) rather than to let them contract the full-strength live virus.  Why risk it?

You should have asked the doctor to explain the shots to you in detail.

@a_drunken_cellist@xanga - Thanks for pointing out facts that many just don't comprehend.  It's unfortunate that there are people out there willing to risk other people's lives, including their children's.

@abilene_piper_lg@xanga - I've always felt so sorry for you, spouting off such animosity towards the medical professionals.  I do remember that you had some bad experiences.  You have got to remember that your experiences aren't necessarily those of others. 

I'm actually not just a file or a patient number to my physicians.  I've been lucky to have doctors who care for me, for my physical and mental well being.  I had such severe postpartum depression after the birth of my little girl.  Had it not been for the care I received during that time, I would not be here today. 
My children have super pediatricians, they've been wonderful.  My daughter's cleft surgeon is a great part of our lives, he's been compassionate about his role in her life.
My dad's oncologist, I am so grateful to him for allowing us to have dad around for so much longer.  Without the chemo and radiation, he could very well be dead. 

It's great to promote natural and alternative lifestyles, kudos to you.  Just remember, that even the most healthy of people who are following those lifestyles are not immune to illness.  My cousin ate nothing but organic foods, never put any sort of "chemicals" into her system, exercised religiously... etc...
She died of glioblastoma -- the most severe of brain cancers.

As for the freedom of religious expression -- no religions put any sort of stipulations on the type of medical care that one needs.  Cults, on the other hand, do so. 
One's moral obligation?  Yes, there are moral obligations when it comes to medical/preventative care.  My moral obligation as a parent is to insure that my children are healthy.  If I don't take my child to the doctor or hospital when there is a problem that warrants medical attention, then I would not be parenting.  My children are precious to me, I am trying my best to keep them and myself as healthy as possible so that we can enjoy each others' lives for as long as possible. 

@missnihkii@xanga - Gamma-aminobutyric acid...hydroxymethylglutarate....do you know what these things are? Would you feel safe if these chemicals were in your body?

If your answer is no, I'd hate to break it to you, but they already are.  These are chemicals synthesized by our bodies and are pretty essential to us.  The fact that something is a chemical does not make it inherently dangerous.  And the fact that they have long names that you probably cannot pronounce is a null argument, because a name is just that...it's meaningless to the average person, and they're simply meant to describe the molecules to scientists for easy identification. Adenosylcobalamin...that's just a name for an active form of vitamin B12.  My point is, don't let the name scare you.  Don't let the fact that something is a chemical scare you.  Honestly, almost everything you see and touch is a chemical.  Food is made 100% out of chemicals...the clothing you wear on your skins is 100% chemical.  Your entire body is 100% chemical. 

Just to alleviate your fears a bit more, I don't understand all of the chemicals in shampoo, but the chemists at the FDA who approve it for sale on the market do, and the only way they would approve it is if they know the chemicals are safe.  It's important to evaluate the validity of the information you find online... people are scared by what they don't understand.  Some sites will throw out a lot of scientific words to scare people, but seriously...be objective as possible and judge them by their scientific sources.  Did they cite studies? Can you access the studies? Who conducted the studies? What website is hosting the data?

People have the right to determine what's good for themselves...but when they start talking about science and health and spreading falsities, it's frustrating against scientists who actually study these things and are knowledgable about them.  I mean...Jim Carrey and Oprah both vehemently swear that vaccines cause autism...with what support? I mean...can I like, please see your PhDs, PharmDs, or MDs before you start making claims about stuff in a field you don't even seem to be an expert in? Especially against the word of those who actually do have PhDs, PharmDs, and/or MDs...but the fact that they're so popular in the media, as opposed to the boring, geek, scientists with advanced degrees in stuff people can't pronounce, means that thousands and thousands of people actually believe them! And then they start sprouting nonsense on their own too. God...this world makes no sense sometimes.