Wednesday, 19 August 2009
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H1N1 Vaccine Questioned - Autism
I came across an article titled Autism Activists Question H1N1 Vaccine. There are two ingredients in this vaccine that raise question: thimerosal and squalene. If you know anything about vaccines and autism then you know that thimerosal (known as mercury) is a big controversy right now. I can’t believe that they are even thinking about putting that in a vaccine. GRRR The Squalene is aluminum and our bodies already have it but if increased amounts they believe this could cause auto immune deficiencies. They are in a rush to develop this and have this ready for an outbreak. They are saying that it’s safe but if they can’t research it longer then 2 months how in the world are they going to know the long term effects.Symptoms of H1N1 flu (swine flu), include cough and sore throat and possibly vomiting and diarrhea, fever and body aches. Mind you this is the same symptoms as the regular influenza.
I am sorry but I am not comfortable vaccinating my kids with the H1N1 vaccine. Every time we got the flu shots we ended up sick. I don’t care about the mumbo jumbo saying oh it don’t make you sick. I beg to differ! If I am not getting what they are putting in me I am getting something else. The point is WE all get sick really bad in this house. Dakota, Brad and I got the flu shot and we were all sick at the same time with fevers and everything else that goes with it. So we don’t get it anymore and we don’t’ get the flu. I am just not going to do it. I am not going to risk the long term effects from this vaccine being rushed out to the public.
I really suggest you read the article yourself as I have probably left things out that are important. This is just my opinion. I am not telling anyone else what to do. I am just letting you know the 2 ingredients that are in it. I refuse to vaccinate my kids with ANY thimerosal in it.
Heavy Metals are just that. They are Heavy Metals and they are NOT good!
You know what else gets me is the negative comments the person got on this article. It really saddens me that people are not educated. There were cases were people won against the pharmacuetical companies and have linked it to the vaccines. Then there are cases that did not win. So people need to get their facts straight before they start talking. I am sorry I don’t think they can understand our feelings on vaccinations and autism if they are not in our situtation. Coincidence?? I think not. In fact vaccines contain aborted fetal tissue. There is a company now studing the effect on if this alter genetics. So time will tell and the truth should come out. I am starting ot pay attention to what is in the ingredients now. Sorry I guess I am spouting off again. This really is a touchy subject with me and I get so very frustrated.
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H1N1 was a ridiculous scare, blown way out of proportion. The vaccine for it has proven ineffective anyway. Another bogus attempt by Big Pharma to make us into robots.
shit! mercury in a vaccine O_O
they cant be serious!!
I followed the link to the article. It seems to be irresponsible reportage by a non-science, non-statistically savvy reporter who can drum up more interest by scaremongering than quoting research papers and proper sources rather than 'health experts'.
Its all right going on hunches for oneself, but doesn't really help anyone. What would help is pestering drug companies, health authorities and the government to actually perform proper research and publish the results (good or bad) in peer-reviewed journals.
Most shots are actually causing more bad than good. I was given the 3 shot series of Gardasil and after 2 shots had twitching through my body and got violently ill, the thrid shot comes and I start having tonic clonic seizures and have been everyday since then. They say it's not the shot, that it's all psychological because I broke my back in a car accident in May, but it started after the SHOT I didn't have seizures before then, I was feeling rather ok even after the accident but when I got the shot it went and stayed downhill. It sucks!
Most shots are now rushed and pushed and no safe. They don't study the long term effects!
Wow.
When the H1N1 scare was rampant, I started reading about it some and the outbreak that occurred in the 70's. They rushed a vaccine then too and I remember reading that the only death during the scare was due to the vaccine! (Sorry, no link to article/proof 'cause this was a few months ago, but I'm sure you could find it if you searched for it).
All the hype about H1N1 is ridiculous though. It's not any worse than the regular flu. I know several people who had it and recovered just fine. They also were not any sicker than I was when I had the regular seasonal flu earlier this year.
@Lighthouse_Oceanlover@xanga - Yikes! That really sucks. Exactlywhy I didn't get the gardasil shot. They pushed it through so quickly and there was no research on it for it's long-term effects.
There's risk w/ all vaccinations. Some are really okay though, but yes, do your research!
Of course flu shots get you sick. Not only would I get a mild case of the cold but I would be all sore at the injection site. Just like with any vaccine they have to use the actual virus in it, so that your body can become "immune" (in someway) to it. Sorry my reply isn't as great as I would want it to be but I'm tired and in class!
@Lighthouse_Oceanlover@xanga - Totally understand what you mean by they push it through too quickly and don't give it enough research. My friend took seasonique before it was seasonelle or w/e and she ended up with PCOS (polycystic ovarian syndrome) as a result of it. She just recently had a baby which is like a miracle because she was pretty much deemed sterile.
First off, when they removed thimerosal from the childhood vaccines, autism did not go down. Additionally, the vaccine regiment delivered in the first six months contains 4 mg aluminum. The same amount a breast feeding baby gets in 2.4 months of breast milk, or a formula feeding baby gets in 18 days worth of formula (source). Individual vaccines contain no more than 0.8 mg per dose. In general the only affect the aluminum has is additional swelling at the injection site.
I've got other issues with the H1N1 vaccine, but the anti-vaccine crowd, like in this article, likes to push a bunch of non-science to evoke fear.
@Dargon@xanga - Thank you for providing a source for your information. I read The Vaccine Book by Dr. Sears and a few government sites regarding aluminum toxicity but the source you provided was much more helpful. Thanks!
I agree. It's sad how uneducated people are.
For example, thimerosol (as a preservative in vaccines) is perfectly safe, and is only controversial if you're ignorant. Squalene contains no aluminum, and poses no significant risks.
And the only information claiming either's actually going to be in the h1n1 vaccine (in the US) is coming from antivaxxers who aren't in a position to know.
The really tragic thing is that that noise is the loudest thing out there.
Screw that noise.
i am scared to death of this vaccine. I warn everyone not to take it. They havent put it through any rigorous testing and have no idea what the long term effects are. The last time they released a vaccine for swine flu i think was 76, it was untested for the same reason as now... they want it ready to go. 13 people were hospitalized and 1 died from the actual flu. 25 people died from the vaccine side effects.
They are also reporting now that this strain has already mutated, so the shot they are working so fast to push out won't help you much (read at all).
I used to get the flu shot every year, and every year i came down with the flu. The last 3 years i havent received the shot and i have gotten through with nothing more major than the sniffles.
This flu is no worse than a regular seasonal flu. It have infected and killed less people since it appeared than regular seasonal flu does every year. I'm just going to stick to good hygiene and eating immune boosting foods.
@PrinsesAna@xanga - The regular flu shot doesn't cause illness, it doesn't contain the live virus. The flu shot doesn't cause the flu nor a cold.
That being said, I would definitely not go for the swine flu shot, since it's so new.
We have gotten the "regular" flu shot, though, since my daughter is high-risk. Neither my children nor husband nor I had ever become sick after getting it.
@ManoAngeliukai9902@xanga - So all those ppl who get sick after the shot are making it up? Millions of pathological liars huh?
The flu shot: The viruses in the flu shot are
<li> Soreness, redness, or swelling where the shot was given<li> Fever (low grade)<li> Acheskilled (inactivated), so you cannot get the flu from a flu shot. Some
minor side effects that could occur are
If these problems occur, they begin soon after the shot and usually last 1 to 2 days
Oh wow I can't certainly see how someone who assume they are sick with symptoms like that "sarcasm". On top of that everyone is different and may suffer from different things. So thanks Dr. ManoAngeliukai9902@xanga...all these years those feelings I had after a flu shot were all in my head. God damn it!
i don't blame you for getting upset. everytime i get the flu shot i have gotten sick as well. this past year i decided i just wasn't going to get it. if i got sick then so be it. i have not been sick with anything like the flu this year. that doesn't mean i won't get it but i have found that you can't beleive people that just because things are suppose to have one thing in it don't have somthing that would harm you in it anyway.
What I don't understand about the argument over vaccines is how people can blatantly ignore the millions of people who have the vaccines without any negative side effects. While I don't trust the Gardasil and am iffy on the H1N1 vaccine, the general infant vaccines seem to cause more good than harm. I received all the normal infant vaccines and am I autistic? No. Everyone in my family received them and we don't have an autism. I teach swim lessons and I had a lesson with three brothers, all of them vaccinated (I talked with the mother about this), and one had autism and the other two didn't. I also taught a class with twins, one autistic, one not, both vaccinated. Maybe I'm missing a massive link, but I was under the impression that no one knows the causes of autism, so to say vaccines cause it is slightly erroneous...If I'm wrong, please let me know with credible sources and information because I really would just like this to be clarified.
Of course a flu shot may give you side effects, such as becoming ill. A vaccine is a dead or weakened virus so that when it's injected in your body, your body can easily fight off the weakened virus and create memory cells to become immune to it in the future.
i don't know what the technical term is, but that vaccine gardasil has aluminum in it. (i whimpered in pain cause it really hurt. then she told me it was because they put a little aluminum in it)
i should probably "get the facts" as you say in your entry but i seriously don't think that getting vaccines hurt you in any way... (and i really don't believe vaccines are the reason for autism..more like genetics) i've gotten them since i was a baby and i'm fine. i usually don't get the flu shot because i'm lazy to go to the doctors when i don't need to haha i do get the flu every year though (i am getting the flu shot this year cause my college offers it on campus). but all the other vaccines i've gotten as a baby have prevented me from getting hepatitis B, chicken pox, and whatever is out there that i could have been exposed to. the worst thing i ever got was bronchitis.
also, i think the reason that people get sick is because of the people who do not get the vaccinations...because the virus or whatever it is will mutate from person to person. SO, even though you got the flu shot you could have easily gotten the mutated strain. and then...since you and your family got the same flu shot, once you are sick you expose it to them.
There's probably mercury in a lot of vaccines, unfortunately.
However, since I actually know about mercury being in this vaccine, my daughter won't be getting it and neither will I, not that I should get vaccines anyhow. It's my husband I worry about now, because more than most likely the Army will MAKE him get it. *sigh*
@PrinsesAna@xanga - No sarcasm at all, I was merely stating a fact. I didn't say that people who have gotten sick after getting the shot are making it up. I know that some get sick after the shot. I was merely saying that it's not the shot that gives them the flu or a cold.
You did mention a few side effects, and yes, I know those side effects. Read a bit more further about them and the next fact that states that one doesn't get the flu/cold from the shot.
Soreness isn't an illness, naturally one is going to be sore after receiving an injection. Fever is a symptom of illness, yes, but most children have fever after every shot they receive. I remember giving my children Tylenol or Motrin when they were younger after their immunizations. Aches/pains... again, symptoms, and yes, symptoms of the flu. However, LOL, that's another symptom of receiving ANY shot. I felt those things after getting a tetanus shot back in '02. I had ripped one of my toenails (OUCH) and had red lines coming up my foot. I knew that I couldn't have gotten the flu from the tetanus shot.
I never claimed that I'm a doctor, LOL. I am a 41 year old mom of 2 who happens to know a bit from reading and experience.
I'm scared more of the H1N1 vaccine than H1N1 itself. Even without knowing the facts common sense says that if their in such a rush to produce the vaccine, then they don't won't have proper time to test it. That should be enough reason not to want to take it. I've seen so many stories about H1N1. Some of them are pretty out there saying someone made the virus and sent it to other countries. I don't know what the truth it but I just no I'm not taking that damn vaccine. I live in a city that supposedly had a lot of cases of infection and deaths (untill WHO website took the information down. I can only question why) and if I haven't caught it by now then i doubt I will.
I am NOT giving my son this vaccine, nor am I getting it myself. It's the fucking flu, seriously, yes a few people die from it but it's NO worse than any other illness. I'm so frustrated.
I never got the chicken pox vaccine, so I got sick in Kindergarten and I'm FINE! A little itch vs. a shot that could potentially ruin lots of things..I prefer wearing mittens and watching TV for a week :p
@balloonandapin@xanga - The Spanish flu pandemic of 1918 was also "just" the flu--Influenza Type A, and like the swine flu, a strain of H1N1. 500 million people contracted it (1/3 the world's population at the time) and 50 to 100 million people died from it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic
@hipbonesarein@xanga -
The combination of a certain genetic makeup and the shots (perhaps combined with other environmental factors) is what raises the risk of autism."There are no fetal tissues in vaccines. The viruses used to make
certain vaccines are cultured and maintained in human cell lines that
were derived from a fetus. One of these cell lines has been around
since the early 1960's."
To say that vaccines contain fetal tissue is like saying tomatoes contain dirt because they were grown in soil.
Another scary thing is the Rockefellers are involved in the Vaccine Industry. They believe the world would be better off if the population was reduced significantly..
Ok this is not so easy, I mean you're damned if you do or don't. right now I'm thinking no but I still have alot of reading to do so untill then I'll be with my nose in the books. Good luck to you all at what you decide.